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Sunday 10 september 2006
Justthought
10 Sep 2006

1. And as an effort towards that, is it also possible to agree some of the values?

2. Like, for instance, innocent until proven guilty.
3. Proof is subject to the highest standards of rigour known to human beings so fart,

4. Not torture, not violence. but intelelctual, evidential rigour. Objective. As objective as objective can be.

5. And is it also possible to then abide by those?

6. If it is possible to agree on these stages, is it then possible to question, try and prosecute [under the highest forums of international human rights laws] anyone, whoever they may be, as based on what they say and do, rather than on any prior decision about their right to say or do whatever it is that is under review?

7. Now can we apply these principles to all states?


8. Conceptual pause here for the actual tests and trials - hypothetically, of course.

9. What does the exercise show us?

10. Is it the case that ALL the statements by or via Bush and Blair about the Middle East have been shown to have been unproven?

11. Is it then possible to look for the same values against Bush and Blair as were apparently applied against Saddam Hussein and the Serbian perpetrators at the givens times?

12. What is the intrinsic superiority of an infant born to one race or religious group as compared to the intrinsic inferiority of another infant born to another ethnic or religious group?

13. What makes one ethnic ore religious group a superior group victims as compared to another group at another time?

14. What evidential ground and thence right is there for one terrorist state to demand existence for itself while it denies the same to its questioners to imagine coming into existence?

15. What kind of fairness, rule of law, civilisation, and values does that state recognise?

16. Who are its backers?

17. What are the criteria that can be applied to classify them and find them as coming from a very narrow and closed background albeit they are scattered c across the planet earth and may at first appear to be drawn from a wider background than is the case?
18. Can we also agree that any state that may oppose the internationally agreed course of action, should be independently examined by that forum and if found guilty that state be recommend for expulsion form the world forum?
19. What state could come to mind?
20. Do we have a world platform and system to get there?
21. If not, why not?
22. How much worse do things have to get, how many infants and other innocents must suffer before we the people of the world get a forum like that which we all spontaneously rationally back?